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Jerry Springer The Opera tickets for £25
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Stella McArthur
2003-12-13 19:01:16 UTC
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Jerry Springer the Opera is currently the hottest ticket in London.
Following unprecedented rave reviews and standing ovations from critics and
public alike, the run has been extended twice at the National Theatre. The
show combines the musical, comedy and opera genres and has been described in
The Observer as "the most explosive theatrical event for years" and by Liam
Gallagher as "the best ******** thing I have ever seen". And last but not
least, Jerry Springer says, "I only wish I'd thought of it first".

Please be aware that there are a limited number of 25.00
tickets available to customers aged 25 and under. These are only
available from the Cambridge Theatre box office and must be booked
at least 7 days in advance.

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I@n
2003-12-13 22:22:56 UTC
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On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:01:16 -0000, "Stella McArthur"
Post by Stella McArthur
Jerry Springer the Opera is currently the hottest ticket in London.
Well it can't be if you've resorted to spamming newsgroups.
Adrian
2003-12-13 22:32:36 UTC
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Post by ***@n
Post by Stella McArthur
Jerry Springer the Opera is currently the hottest ticket in London.
Well it can't be if you've resorted to spamming newsgroups.
What's really worrying is that I've heard that elsewhere. I rather suspect
it's a damning indictment of the other big-name shows, not a ringing
endorsement of Jerry.
vonroach
2003-12-13 23:57:54 UTC
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On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:01:16 -0000, "Stella McArthur"
Post by Stella McArthur
Jerry Springer the Opera is currently the hottest ticket in London.
England has never had a reputation as a patron of grand opera. Now
apparently their taste in entertainment has cratered too.
Andrew
2003-12-18 19:44:46 UTC
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Post by ***@n
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:01:16 -0000, "Stella McArthur"
Post by Stella McArthur
Jerry Springer the Opera is currently the hottest ticket in London.
England has never had a reputation as a patron of grand opera. Now
apparently their taste in entertainment has cratered too.
Sorry, Roachyboy, wrong again.

Our taste in entertainment may be appalling- after all, we enjoy a few US
imports- but you simply have no idea.
vonroach
2003-12-19 00:28:59 UTC
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:44:46 +0000 (UTC), "Andrew"
Post by Andrew
Our taste in entertainment may be appalling- after all,
After all, that is all I was pointing out.
Andrew
2003-12-19 15:18:24 UTC
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Post by vonroach
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:44:46 +0000 (UTC), "Andrew"
Post by Andrew
Our taste in entertainment may be appalling- after all,
After all, that is all I was pointing out.
By quoting me, you are quite correct- you simply have no idea!
Peter Duncanson
2003-12-18 20:44:46 UTC
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On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:01:16 -0000, "Stella McArthur"
Post by Stella McArthur
Jerry Springer the Opera is currently the hottest ticket in London.
England has never had a reputation as a patron of grand opera. Now
apparently their taste in entertainment has cratered too.
The merits of an opera as a work of art are not dependent on the subject
matter.

Let's see - a man who "screws around" very actively, seduces the daughter of
a rich family, father objects, man kills father, other excitements, man
dies.

"Jerry Springer the Opera"? No. Mozart's "Don Giovanni".
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Peter Duncanson
UK
(posting from u.c.l.e)
vonroach
2003-12-19 00:45:27 UTC
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:44:46 +0000, Peter Duncanson
Post by Peter Duncanson
The merits of an opera as a work of art are not dependent on the subject
matter.
Let's see - a man who "screws around" very actively, seduces the daughter of
a rich family, father objects, man kills father, other excitements, man
dies.
"Jerry Springer the Opera"? No. Mozart's "Don Giovanni".
Peter Duncanson
Exactly, Petey, imagine a place where a masterpiece by a musical
genius is compared with a joke patterned on a trash clown like
Springer. Just no taste old boy. Tell me the critics called it the
best spoof or comedy of the year, same observation applies. Perhaps
you are unaware that Don Giovanni was an opera penned hurriedly by
Mozart to take advantage of his popularity in the public opera house
to make some money. Conducted the pit orchestra in person. It turns
out he couldn't compose much except great music, even when in a hurry
and not too impressed with the audience. I doubt in a couple of
hundred years we will say that about `Jerry Springer' and who ever
churned out this musical slop.
Peter Duncanson
2003-12-19 02:37:33 UTC
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Post by vonroach
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:44:46 +0000, Peter Duncanson
Post by Peter Duncanson
The merits of an opera as a work of art are not dependent on the subject
matter.
Let's see - a man who "screws around" very actively, seduces the daughter of
a rich family, father objects, man kills father, other excitements, man
dies.
"Jerry Springer the Opera"? No. Mozart's "Don Giovanni".
Peter Duncanson
Exactly, Petey, imagine a place where a masterpiece by a musical
genius is compared with a joke patterned on a trash clown like
Springer. Just no taste old boy. Tell me the critics called it the
best spoof or comedy of the year, same observation applies. Perhaps
you are unaware that Don Giovanni was an opera penned hurriedly by
Mozart to take advantage of his popularity in the public opera house
to make some money. Conducted the pit orchestra in person. It turns
out he couldn't compose much except great music, even when in a hurry
and not too impressed with the audience. I doubt in a couple of
hundred years we will say that about `Jerry Springer' and who ever
churned out this musical slop.
All fair enough. I did not make any comment on the merits of Jerry Springer
the Opera - I haven't seen it. Mozart would undoubtedly have made something
much better out of the same theme. My point was in the first sentence: "The
merits of an opera as a work of art are not dependent on the subject
matter".
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Peter Duncanson
UK
(posting from u.c.l.e)
vonroach
2003-12-19 15:26:02 UTC
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 02:37:33 +0000, Peter Duncanson
Post by Peter Duncanson
"The
merits of an opera as a work of art are not dependent on the subject
matter".
True, the merit is in the music; and he did take a few pages from
Springer's garbage and elevated them to an immortal classic - The
Marriage of Figaro, with a little political message thrown in. He had
quite a bit of musical fun where he lampooned both sleaze and
pretense. His libretto writer Casanova would probably felt more at
home with Springer or on the London stage (he actually opted for the
US and died in Brooklyn or there abouts still trumpeting his
association with Mozart.)
Mike Stevens
2003-12-19 20:12:17 UTC
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Post by Peter Duncanson
All fair enough. I did not make any comment on the merits of Jerry
Springer the Opera - I haven't seen it. Mozart would undoubtedly have
made something much better out of the same theme. My point was in
the first sentence: "The merits of an opera as a work of art are not
dependent on the subject matter".
I've also not seen "J S the Op" (not least because I tend not to enjoy
musicals), but I didn't think it claimed to an actual opera in any sense
but a facetious one it its title. Any more that the play "An Evening
with Gary Linneker" starred the eponymous footballer.


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Web site www.mike-stevens.co.uk
No man is an island. So is Man.
Peter Duncanson
2003-12-20 00:19:18 UTC
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Post by Mike Stevens
Post by Peter Duncanson
All fair enough. I did not make any comment on the merits of Jerry
Springer the Opera - I haven't seen it. Mozart would undoubtedly have
made something much better out of the same theme. My point was in
the first sentence: "The merits of an opera as a work of art are not
dependent on the subject matter".
I've also not seen "J S the Op" (not least because I tend not to enjoy
musicals), but I didn't think it claimed to an actual opera in any sense
but a facetious one it its title. Any more that the play "An Evening
with Gary Linneker" starred the eponymous footballer.
I wouldn't like to get entangled in a discussion on when a musical can be
called an opera - or versy vicer.

At least musicals have music in them - which is more than can be said for
"soap operas". Which reminds me of something that makes smile whenever I
remember it. Clive James, when he was TV critic of the Sunday Times,
commented that the makers of the TV series Dallas and Dynasty has "mastered
the art of putting gloss on pulp".
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Peter Duncanson
UK
(posting from u.c.l.e)
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