Discussion:
Lefty Women Running the BBC
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ROBBIE
2004-04-21 22:03:58 UTC
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 23:31:51 +0100, "ROBBIE"
Go on, name me these "lefty women" who "run" the BBC.
OK. Let's start with Lorraine Heggessey, Controller of BBC 1. She talks in
press statements about Internationalism and Multiculturalism, these, in
themselves prove her to be left wing as they are left wing ideas and left
wing policy full stop. To me, that is proof enough but she graduated in the
seventies and went straight into the media (was there a student at
Thatcher's first term who *wasn't* left wing? Then we find Ms Heggessey in
the 80s making political programmes for Channel 4. Now, you don't make
political programmes on Channel 4 in the 80s unless you were left wing. Add
to that she was collaborating on programmes with Ken Loach, a doctrinaire
Socialist of the old school. She is thoroughly feminist and rigorous in the
equality stakes; it is rumoured that she will not green light the next Dr
Who unless a woman is playing the part. Feminism is, by its nature, left
wing.
Recently she launched an unprecedented, for a an 'impartial' BBC Head,
attack on Murdoch, calling him a 'capitalist imperialist'. This is highly
political language and it is the language of a person fluent in left wing
political thinking. Only someone left wing in a fairly hard core way would
use *both* words together. Think about it. So, yes, a 'lefty woman running
the BBC1'.

Now, let us look at the Controller of BBC2, Jane Root.

The first thing to know is that Ms Root is a devout feminist; this scores
high in any appraisal of how left wing a person is. She was, in the early
eighties, a film studies lecturer specialising in 'women's cinema'; there
were not many feminist film studies lecturers in the early 80s, never mind
now, who were not left wing. She also had a women's only film distribution
company. As a minority venture, she would have been left wing--quite apart
from sexual politics--simply because left wing policy would have favoured
subsidy to her mimority interest company. (Subsidy is how minority issuse
stuff survives, but see my stuff on the cultural revolution for that). She
also wrote a book about women in film. She founded a production company
which made programmes with a feminist, internationalist flavour. Prior to
founding her production company, as a freelance journalist and film critic,
Jane worked on The Guardian, New Statesman and a range of film and women's
magazines.
Now, take a look at those titles. Staunchly left wing organs. Quite apart
from all that she now works in huge company run on socialist principles, so
it is very much in her interest and the furtherance of her policies that it
go on being run on those lines which will make her naturally antipathetic to
non left wing ideas. Hands up who thinks she votes tory? So, a lefty woman
running the BBC.
Explain what happened to the left wing cultural revolution after the
1970s. Seems like it got put on hold.
What I detail below I don't necessarily approve of, before little Vinnie
Melia pops up screaming. It is just a delineation of the left wing cultural
revolution.

The cultural revolution never got put on hold. It began in the 60s and
matured in the 70s: pop music and rock and roll; the counterculture;
explosion of left wing student politics: academia has been left-leaning ever
since. Abolition of the death penalty and moves for more lenient sentences.
Drug culture and sexual revolution sparked by easy contraception. Repeal of
the laws on homsexuality. Feminism and sexual politics--that's tandem with
academia. Dismantling of the grammar school system and introduction of
comprehensives. Race relations act and multiculturalism. Increased nudity,
violence and swearing on television.
By the eighties, when you seem to think that because of Maggie Thatcher it
all stopped, it *really* got going and fined tuned itself. Academia, the
Arts and the media, especially the BBC were now full of the people who had
seen the dawn of the cultural revolution, they pressed on: more
sophisticated Multiculturalism, Positive Discrimination, the drive more
sexual education earlier, Gay Rights, Women Rights, Minority Rights. In that
Tory year of 1982 a new TV station starts that is openly left wing and
minority based, Channel 4. In London the GLC was basically Marxist, Thatcher
banned it, but whose still around? The concept of the Loony Left council,
bankrupt and hidebound with hardcore Marxist dogma, arrived courtesy of Ted
Knight, Bernie Grant and Ken Livingstone. The ragingly left wing doctrine of
Political Correctness was fined-tuned in America under the rabidly right
wing Ronald Reagan's nose and it was welcomed with open arms here in the
arts and education. By the 90s, positive discrimination was industry
standard for anywhere that was funded with public money; in education the
syllabuses were geared to left wing educational ideas across a range of
subjects.
In 1997 a Lbour government arrives full of 70s quasi-marxists with their
beards shaved off. Blair an ex CND member--left wing organisation; wanted
the USSR to be the only country in Europe with nuclear weapons. He took
great pains to deny it. Decriminilising marijuana, ever more lenient
sentencing, general public acquiescence to left wing ideas such a PC and MC
demanded on pain of pariah status, if not legal action. Huge amounts of cash
fed to public sector arts and edcuation where the left wing mind set is
strongest. The BBC is joined by many people who resign from the Labour Party
to take up their 'impartial positions'. Greg Dyke, a Labour Party member.
Andrew Marr, a Labour Party member. Both resigned to take up their postions.
Meanwhile, the esmaculation of the police force into the police service;
lost in paperwork and unctuous political correctness. Growth in public
sector non jobs (teenage pregancy co-ordinator etc) and Gordon
Brown--fervently anti-British Chancellor of the Exchequer--plans to borrow
140 billion pounds over five years to sink into public sector; in effect to
create a huge amount of workers dependent on a left wing economic approach
for their jobs. Meanwhile BBC run by Lefty women--who emerged from academia
in the red 70s-- whose prime concerns are internationalism,
multiculturalism, relevancy and feminism.
See? Screwed up all your theories in the space of 3 minutes.
I don't think so.
james
2004-04-21 23:06:44 UTC
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Post by ROBBIE
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 23:31:51 +0100, "ROBBIE"
Go on, name me these "lefty women" who "run" the BBC.
OK. Let's start with Lorraine Heggessey, Controller of BBC 1.
(Reluctant snip)

Thanks, Robbie, for a lucid, well-thought-out argument.
--
James Follett. Novelist. (G1LXP) http://www.jamesfollett.dswilliams.co.uk
ROBBIE
2004-04-22 07:27:59 UTC
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Post by james
Post by ROBBIE
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 23:31:51 +0100, "ROBBIE"
Go on, name me these "lefty women" who "run" the BBC.
OK. Let's start with Lorraine Heggessey, Controller of BBC 1.
(Reluctant snip)
Thanks, Robbie, for a lucid, well-thought-out argument.
--
James Follett. Novelist. (G1LXP) http://www.jamesfollett.dswilliams.co.uk
I'm honoured my Lord.
RJM
2004-04-24 08:24:36 UTC
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Post by ROBBIE
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 23:31:51 +0100, "ROBBIE"
Go on, name me these "lefty women" who "run" the BBC.
OK. Let's start with Lorraine Heggessey, Controller of BBC 1. She talks in
press statements about Internationalism and Multiculturalism, these, in
themselves prove her to be left wing as they are left wing ideas and left
wing policy full stop. To me, that is proof enough but she graduated in the
seventies and went straight into the media (was there a student at
Thatcher's first term who *wasn't* left wing? Then we find Ms Heggessey in
the 80s making political programmes for Channel 4. Now, you don't make
political programmes on Channel 4 in the 80s unless you were left wing. Add
to that she was collaborating on programmes with Ken Loach, a doctrinaire
Socialist of the old school. She is thoroughly feminist and rigorous in the
equality stakes; it is rumoured that she will not green light the next Dr
Who unless a woman is playing the part. Feminism is, by its nature, left
wing.
Recently she launched an unprecedented, for a an 'impartial' BBC Head,
attack on Murdoch, calling him a 'capitalist imperialist'. This is highly
political language and it is the language of a person fluent in left wing
political thinking. Only someone left wing in a fairly hard core way would
use *both* words together. Think about it. So, yes, a 'lefty woman running
the BBC1'.
Now, let us look at the Controller of BBC2, Jane Root.
The first thing to know is that Ms Root is a devout feminist; this scores
high in any appraisal of how left wing a person is. She was, in the early
eighties, a film studies lecturer specialising in 'women's cinema'; there
were not many feminist film studies lecturers in the early 80s, never mind
now, who were not left wing. She also had a women's only film distribution
company. As a minority venture, she would have been left wing--quite apart
from sexual politics--simply because left wing policy would have favoured
subsidy to her mimority interest company. (Subsidy is how minority issuse
stuff survives, but see my stuff on the cultural revolution for that). She
also wrote a book about women in film. She founded a production company
which made programmes with a feminist, internationalist flavour. Prior to
founding her production company, as a freelance journalist and film critic,
Jane worked on The Guardian, New Statesman and a range of film and women's
magazines.
Now, take a look at those titles. Staunchly left wing organs. Quite apart
from all that she now works in huge company run on socialist principles, so
it is very much in her interest and the furtherance of her policies that it
go on being run on those lines which will make her naturally antipathetic to
non left wing ideas. Hands up who thinks she votes tory? So, a lefty woman
running the BBC.
Explain what happened to the left wing cultural revolution after the
1970s. Seems like it got put on hold.
What I detail below I don't necessarily approve of, before little Vinnie
Melia pops up screaming. It is just a delineation of the left wing cultural
revolution.
The cultural revolution never got put on hold. It began in the 60s and
matured in the 70s: pop music and rock and roll; the counterculture;
explosion of left wing student politics: academia has been left-leaning ever
since. Abolition of the death penalty and moves for more lenient sentences.
Drug culture and sexual revolution sparked by easy contraception. Repeal of
the laws on homsexuality. Feminism and sexual politics--that's tandem with
academia. Dismantling of the grammar school system and introduction of
comprehensives. Race relations act and multiculturalism. Increased nudity,
violence and swearing on television.
By the eighties, when you seem to think that because of Maggie Thatcher it
all stopped, it *really* got going and fined tuned itself. Academia, the
Arts and the media, especially the BBC were now full of the people who had
seen the dawn of the cultural revolution, they pressed on: more
sophisticated Multiculturalism, Positive Discrimination, the drive more
sexual education earlier, Gay Rights, Women Rights, Minority Rights. In that
Tory year of 1982 a new TV station starts that is openly left wing and
minority based, Channel 4. In London the GLC was basically Marxist, Thatcher
banned it, but whose still around? The concept of the Loony Left council,
bankrupt and hidebound with hardcore Marxist dogma, arrived courtesy of Ted
Knight, Bernie Grant and Ken Livingstone. The ragingly left wing doctrine of
Political Correctness was fined-tuned in America under the rabidly right
wing Ronald Reagan's nose and it was welcomed with open arms here in the
arts and education. By the 90s, positive discrimination was industry
standard for anywhere that was funded with public money; in education the
syllabuses were geared to left wing educational ideas across a range of
subjects.
In 1997 a Lbour government arrives full of 70s quasi-marxists with their
beards shaved off. Blair an ex CND member--left wing organisation; wanted
the USSR to be the only country in Europe with nuclear weapons. He took
great pains to deny it. Decriminilising marijuana, ever more lenient
sentencing, general public acquiescence to left wing ideas such a PC and MC
demanded on pain of pariah status, if not legal action. Huge amounts of cash
fed to public sector arts and edcuation where the left wing mind set is
strongest. The BBC is joined by many people who resign from the Labour Party
to take up their 'impartial positions'. Greg Dyke, a Labour Party member.
Andrew Marr, a Labour Party member. Both resigned to take up their postions.
Meanwhile, the esmaculation of the police force into the police service;
lost in paperwork and unctuous political correctness. Growth in public
sector non jobs (teenage pregancy co-ordinator etc) and Gordon
Brown--fervently anti-British Chancellor of the Exchequer--plans to borrow
140 billion pounds over five years to sink into public sector; in effect to
create a huge amount of workers dependent on a left wing economic approach
for their jobs. Meanwhile BBC run by Lefty women--who emerged from academia
in the red 70s-- whose prime concerns are internationalism,
multiculturalism, relevancy and feminism.
See? Screwed up all your theories in the space of 3 minutes.
I don't think so.
Me neither. Well hard, lad. Have this slap on the back.

So, what, given up art for politics?
RobEmm
2004-04-24 09:11:21 UTC
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Post by ROBBIE
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 23:31:51 +0100, "ROBBIE"
Go on, name me these "lefty women" who "run" the BBC.
OK. Let's start with Lorraine Heggessey, Controller of BBC 1. She talks in
press statements about Internationalism and Multiculturalism, these, in
themselves prove her to be left wing as they are left wing ideas and left
wing policy full stop. To me, that is proof enough but she graduated in the
seventies and went straight into the media (was there a student at
Thatcher's first term who *wasn't* left wing? Then we find Ms Heggessey in
the 80s making political programmes for Channel 4. Now, you don't make
political programmes on Channel 4 in the 80s unless you were left wing. Add
to that she was collaborating on programmes with Ken Loach, a doctrinaire
Socialist of the old school. She is thoroughly feminist and rigorous in the
equality stakes; it is rumoured that she will not green light the next Dr
Who unless a woman is playing the part. Feminism is, by its nature, left
wing.
Recently she launched an unprecedented, for a an 'impartial' BBC Head,
attack on Murdoch, calling him a 'capitalist imperialist'. This is highly
political language and it is the language of a person fluent in left wing
political thinking. Only someone left wing in a fairly hard core way would
use *both* words together. Think about it. So, yes, a 'lefty woman running
the BBC1'.
Now, let us look at the Controller of BBC2, Jane Root.
The first thing to know is that Ms Root is a devout feminist; this scores
high in any appraisal of how left wing a person is. She was, in the early
eighties, a film studies lecturer specialising in 'women's cinema'; there
were not many feminist film studies lecturers in the early 80s, never mind
now, who were not left wing. She also had a women's only film distribution
company. As a minority venture, she would have been left wing--quite apart
from sexual politics--simply because left wing policy would have favoured
subsidy to her mimority interest company. (Subsidy is how minority issuse
stuff survives, but see my stuff on the cultural revolution for that). She
also wrote a book about women in film. She founded a production company
which made programmes with a feminist, internationalist flavour. Prior to
founding her production company, as a freelance journalist and film critic,
Jane worked on The Guardian, New Statesman and a range of film and women's
magazines.
Now, take a look at those titles. Staunchly left wing organs. Quite apart
from all that she now works in huge company run on socialist principles, so
it is very much in her interest and the furtherance of her policies that it
go on being run on those lines which will make her naturally antipathetic to
non left wing ideas. Hands up who thinks she votes tory? So, a lefty woman
running the BBC.
Explain what happened to the left wing cultural revolution after the
1970s. Seems like it got put on hold.
What I detail below I don't necessarily approve of, before little Vinnie
Melia pops up screaming. It is just a delineation of the left wing cultural
revolution.
The cultural revolution never got put on hold. It began in the 60s and
matured in the 70s: pop music and rock and roll; the counterculture;
explosion of left wing student politics: academia has been left-leaning ever
since. Abolition of the death penalty and moves for more lenient sentences.
Drug culture and sexual revolution sparked by easy contraception. Repeal of
the laws on homsexuality. Feminism and sexual politics--that's tandem with
academia. Dismantling of the grammar school system and introduction of
comprehensives. Race relations act and multiculturalism. Increased nudity,
violence and swearing on television.
By the eighties, when you seem to think that because of Maggie Thatcher it
all stopped, it *really* got going and fined tuned itself. Academia, the
Arts and the media, especially the BBC were now full of the people who had
seen the dawn of the cultural revolution, they pressed on: more
sophisticated Multiculturalism, Positive Discrimination, the drive more
sexual education earlier, Gay Rights, Women Rights, Minority Rights. In that
Tory year of 1982 a new TV station starts that is openly left wing and
minority based, Channel 4. In London the GLC was basically Marxist, Thatcher
banned it, but whose still around? The concept of the Loony Left council,
bankrupt and hidebound with hardcore Marxist dogma, arrived courtesy of Ted
Knight, Bernie Grant and Ken Livingstone. The ragingly left wing doctrine of
Political Correctness was fined-tuned in America under the rabidly right
wing Ronald Reagan's nose and it was welcomed with open arms here in the
arts and education. By the 90s, positive discrimination was industry
standard for anywhere that was funded with public money; in education the
syllabuses were geared to left wing educational ideas across a range of
subjects.
In 1997 a Lbour government arrives full of 70s quasi-marxists with their
beards shaved off. Blair an ex CND member--left wing organisation; wanted
the USSR to be the only country in Europe with nuclear weapons. He took
great pains to deny it. Decriminilising marijuana, ever more lenient
sentencing, general public acquiescence to left wing ideas such a PC and MC
demanded on pain of pariah status, if not legal action. Huge amounts of cash
fed to public sector arts and edcuation where the left wing mind set is
strongest. The BBC is joined by many people who resign from the Labour Party
to take up their 'impartial positions'. Greg Dyke, a Labour Party member.
Andrew Marr, a Labour Party member. Both resigned to take up their postions.
Meanwhile, the esmaculation of the police force into the police service;
lost in paperwork and unctuous political correctness. Growth in public
sector non jobs (teenage pregancy co-ordinator etc) and Gordon
Brown--fervently anti-British Chancellor of the Exchequer--plans to borrow
140 billion pounds over five years to sink into public sector; in effect to
create a huge amount of workers dependent on a left wing economic approach
for their jobs. Meanwhile BBC run by Lefty women--who emerged from academia
in the red 70s-- whose prime concerns are internationalism,
multiculturalism, relevancy and feminism.
See? Screwed up all your theories in the space of 3 minutes.
I don't think so.
Me neither. That was well hard, lad, gave me quite a turn. Here,
have this slap on the back. So, what, given up art for politics?

RM.
ROBBIE.
2004-04-24 10:40:44 UTC
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Post by RobEmm
Post by ROBBIE
I don't think so.
Me neither. That was well hard, lad, gave me quite a turn. Here,
have this slap on the back. So, what, given up art for politics?
RM.
Not at all. In fact I'm producing better work all round and I would love to
show it here but I'm afraid I simply can't. The political angle is simply
this: I have grown very tired of being labelled a right wing nutcase just
because I'm highly critical of the contemporary scene in the UK. The
arguments here and on the radio 4 newsgroup have been frighteningly similar:
There are an awful lot of well paid, well educated people out there who are
very, very ignorant.

Nick

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